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		<title>Vision in/of the Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 01:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading through some of the blogs I frequent here tonight, and saw a new post on &#8220;nakedpastor&#8221;. In his post, David talks about Vision within the church (go read his post to see what he says).
That made me think of a conversation I was having with the pastor of a new, small church when I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through some of the blogs I frequent here tonight, and saw a new post on <a href="http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/5297">&#8220;nakedpastor&#8221;</a>. In his post, David talks about Vision within the church (<a href="http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/5297">go read his post</a> to see what he says).</p>
<p>That made me think of a conversation I was having with the pastor of a new, small church when I was a missionary in Ukraine a few years ago. Back then, I was still thinking along the lines of the more &#8220;traditional&#8221; ways of doing church, and he was trying to figure out what to do with this church that had started almost by accident (but that&#8217;s a whole other story).</p>
<p>Anyway, as we were talking, I asked him what his vision was for the church. He replied that he didn&#8217;t have one &#8211; and that if anything, his only vision was to provide a place that was open and safe for others to pursue their own vision for following Jesus. Whatever that might be.</p>
<p>As I think back now, I think he had a better idea of what church should be than most of what I have heard since then!</p>
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		<title>Prayer&#8230; and the power of&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 01:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is a common discussion topic on other blogs and sites nowadays, but I thought I would post my latest thoughts.
Why?
Because I went to church today, running the sound system to help out a friend who had to work instead. I had the opportunity had to endure the same message twice (as they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a common discussion topic on other blogs and sites nowadays, but I thought I would post my latest thoughts.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because I went to church today, running the sound system to help out a friend who had to work instead. I <del datetime="2010-05-17T00:47:33+00:00">had the opportunity</del> <em>had to endure</em> the same message twice (as they have two identical services), on the <strong>&#8220;Power of Prayer&#8221;</strong>.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t any better the second time than the first time.</p>
<p>To be fair, he spoke rather well, and used all the appropriate scripture verses to back up what he said.</p>
<p>The general idea of the message was centred around the usual scriptures of &#8220;whatever we ask for in His name, we will receive&#8221;, of course with the condition that we are &#8220;within His will&#8221;.</p>
<p>The usual arguments of having enough faith, and belief, and all of the other usual things were brought up as well &#8211; and we were exhorted to spend more time in prayer. After all, prayer has power, so why don&#8217;t we spend more time tapping into that power?</p>
<p>Ok, fine, sounds good &#8211; and if you believe the usual interpretation of the scripture verses used to back this up, who could argue with it?</p>
<p>Except for one little problem&#8230;</p>
<p>I have a degree in Science. In any scientific field, you come up with a theory &#8211; which you might assume to possibly be true &#8211; but no matter who came up with the theory, or how good it sounds, it is simply a theory until it is proven (or disproven).</p>
<p>How do you prove it?</p>
<p>You test it (if necessary, you test it many times). Sometimes, tests (or experiments) prove the theory to be invalid. This is still useful, as now you know that you need to work on a new theory.</p>
<p>I believe the same approach can be used in our interpretation of some parts of the Bible. This attitude toward prayer is a good example&#8230; It is a very attractive theory.</p>
<p>In reality, however, it is quite apparent to me, and to any person who is honest with themselves, that many times our prayers are NOT answered. Nor are those of many others. There are more than a few people in the world who have spent countless hours in prayer, who have done everything they could to be &#8220;close to God&#8221;, who have had countless other people joining them in their prayers &#8211; and in the end, the result was the complete opposite of what they asked for.</p>
<p>Yes, sometimes miracles do seem to happen, but it seems that much of the time they do not happen.</p>
<p>What does this tell me? It tells me that our understanding of prayer, the interpretation I heard this morning at church, is a <em>faulty theory</em>.</p>
<p>Why then do we keep preaching the same thing?</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time to admit that &#8220;we don&#8217;t get it&#8221;.</p>
<p>It would certainly be a lot more honest than saying that as long as you stay close to God, do/say all of the right things, then God will give you what you want, heal every ailment you ever have, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I am <strong>not</strong> saying that what Jesus originally said isn&#8217;t true. <em>What I am saying</em> is that our current/common interpretation of it is <strong>obviously not correct</strong><em>.</p>
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		<title>Doubts, Questions, etc&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://oddideas.com/?p=78</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 00:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all of the changes in our thinking over the past few years, our complete change in outlook toward life in general, and a new understanding of the Bible, of God, and of Christianity in general, we are sometimes left with our head spinning.
Sometimes, we are simply left wondering what do we really believe now?
Gary [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all of the changes in our thinking over the past few years, our complete change in outlook toward life in general, and a new understanding of the Bible, of God, and of Christianity in general, we are sometimes left with our head spinning.</p>
<p>Sometimes, we are simply left wondering what do we really believe now?</p>
<p>Gary has a <a href="http://communitascollective.com/dealing-with-doubt/">great post about this</a> on the Communitas Collective site. Definitely worth reading!</p>
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		<title>I did it again&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 00:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seem to have been busy again &#8211; or had nothing to say &#8211; or both!
Anyway, I just finished moving the site to a new server.
I have been doing a lot of thinking lately, but that&#8217;s nothing new!
Maybe I&#8217;ll even post some of my thoughts here when I get a chance.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to have been busy again &#8211; or had nothing to say &#8211; or both!</p>
<p>Anyway, I just finished moving the site to a new server.</p>
<p>I have been doing a lot of thinking lately, but that&#8217;s nothing new!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll even post some of my thoughts here when I get a chance.</p>
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		<title>Good Shirt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brant has a new twist on the &#8220;God Said It, I Believe It&#8221; T-shirt theology&#8230;
See it HERE
I like his version better than the usual.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant has a new twist on the &#8220;God Said It, I Believe It&#8221; T-shirt theology&#8230;</p>
<p>See it <a href="http://branthansen.typepad.com/letters_from_kamp_krusty/2009/10/best-christian-tshirt-like-ever.html">HERE</a></p>
<p>I like his version better than the usual.</p>
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		<title>On Prosperity&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the well known passage in Mark 12, Jesus says this:
&#8220;I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.&#8221;
Obviously Jesus was admiring the attitude and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the well known passage in Mark 12, Jesus says this:<br />
<em>&#8220;I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Obviously Jesus was admiring the attitude and faith of the poor widow. Why then do so many Christians spend their whole lives trying to attain the status of the wealthy?</p>
<p>Is it not &#8220;good enough&#8221; to live up to the ideals that Jesus valued?</p>
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		<title>Sunglasses</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This past Sunday at church, they had invited a guest speaker to come in. Usually, the pastor is very careful about who he lets on the stage to speak. Overall, in the type of large church that this is, it might not be a bad policy. That being the case, however, I&#8217;m not sure how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past Sunday at church, they had invited a guest speaker to come in. Usually, the pastor is very careful about who he lets on the stage to speak. Overall, in the type of large church that this is, it might not be a bad policy. That being the case, however, I&#8217;m not sure how this &#8220;guest speaker&#8221; managed to get up there&#8230; or maybe I can.</p>
<p>Within a few minutes of his getting up there and starting to speak, I simply wanted to leave. I just couldn&#8217;t, because I was the sound guy!</p>
<p>So much of what he said &#8220;sounded good&#8221;, but was just off enough to make my skin crawl. The speaker was Brian Klemmer, apparently a well known motivational, &#8220;positive thinker&#8221; type of speaker that charges people lots of money for going to his seminars.</p>
<p>The one thing I did like from his speech was his analogy of how most people are &#8220;born with sunglasses on&#8221;, and live their lives while never taking them off. As a result, no matter what you say to them, they can never see things for what they are &#8211; they just simply don&#8217;t know any better. The only way to change people&#8217;s thinking is to get them to take off the sunglasses.</p>
<p>This made sense to me, as it seems that for many years I was wearing those sunglasses. They were the sunglasses of Christianity. Not only were they tinted, but they were also distorted. A few years ago, some of the everyday things in life made them fall off &#8211; and that certainly caused some confusion!</p>
<p>Ever since then, nothing seems the same. And once you have removed cheap, distorted sunglasses, there is no way you can go back to wearing them.</p>
<p>The problem is that with Brian Klemmer it seems that he hasn&#8217;t actually removed his sunglasses. Instead he has either replaced them with a different tint, or simply rubbed and cleaned the old ones so much that they are now scratched as well. All of his training seminars simply try to make your sunglasses match the ones he is wearing.</p>
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		<title>House of God?</title>
		<link>http://oddideas.com/?p=60</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at the &#8220;dedication&#8221; of a large new facility for a local church this past weekend.
Part of the service &#8211; the official &#8220;dedication&#8221; part &#8211; involved the members of the church staff reciting various promises on the stage, each one followed by the audience repeating something about &#8220;dedicating this house of God&#8221;.
All I could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the &#8220;dedication&#8221; of a large new facility for a local church this past weekend.</p>
<p>Part of the service &#8211; the official &#8220;dedication&#8221; part &#8211; involved the members of the church staff reciting various promises on the stage, each one followed by the audience repeating something about &#8220;dedicating this house of God&#8221;.</p>
<p>All I could think of was the words of Stephen in Acts 7.</p>
<p><em><strong>God does not live in houses made by men.</strong></em></p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;m still cynical.</p>
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		<title>Old posts&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://oddideas.com/?p=31</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve re-posted some of my old posts here&#8230; May add a few more.
The links to some of the other blogs mentioned in my posts will be &#8220;repaired&#8221; as time permits.
If nothing else, it will provide some &#8220;history&#8221; for some hopelessly bored individual who might happen to be reading this blog.
Feel free to comment if you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve re-posted some of my old posts here&#8230; May add a few more.</p>
<p>The links to some of the other blogs mentioned in my posts will be &#8220;repaired&#8221; as time permits.</p>
<p>If nothing else, it will provide some &#8220;history&#8221; for some hopelessly bored individual who might happen to be reading this blog.</p>
<p>Feel free to comment if you want.</p>
<p>Hopefully this time the spammer/hackers will stay away.</p>
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		<title>Here we go again&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This blog had been neglected for a while. I was just too busy, and really had nothing to say beyond what I had already said.
When I finally got around to thinking of something to post a few weeks ago, I logged on only to find that the database was all messed up.
All of the comments [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog had been neglected for a while. I was just too busy, and really had nothing to say beyond what I had already said.</p>
<p>When I finally got around to thinking of something to post a few weeks ago, I logged on only to find that the database was all messed up.</p>
<p>All of the comments were gone. Not that I had many, but the few I did have were good (I thought so anyway).</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t even remember what I was going to post a few weeks ago now&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; I decided to just re-install Wordpress, and upgrade while I was at it. I was using an old version anyway (maybe that&#8217;s why it messed up &#8211; who knows!).</p>
<p>I may get around to re-posting some of my old posts. I think they will help to explain some of the new ones once I get around to that!</p>
<p><em>Rainer</em></p>
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